Unlocking your Inner Superstar!

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Welcome to the Holistic Homo Podcast, where we like to empower others to live bold. My name is Dirk Schultz. I'm the host of the Holistic Homo, and I am here with a very special guest, a friend and mentor of mine, Rhonda Liebig. We were going back and forth about it. I'm like, how do you say your last name properly?'cause I've heard it both ways. Let's debate about it. Let's, it's, yeah. Let's have a debate. No, I'm really excited about having Rhonda on the show. She has so much experience in the health and wellness and personal growth area, her own experience along with her training. And Rhonda, I'm gonna read this just so I can get it correct. I had to put my glasses on'cause I'm older. In Rhonda's coaching, she utilizes 25 years experience in accounting consulting, CPA work mindset coaching and A DP certified health coach. She inspires her clients to increase their sexy, wealthy life by getting real with energy in life vitality. Rhonda focuses on the quantum leaps and time bending to get to the bigger picture of you with her three energy revitalizing pillars. Rhonda will share her own experience, enter her holistic health journey, and how to create a safe and inspired world for yourself. Rhonda, welcome. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Dirk. I love that introduction. I know I gave that to you a bit ago about this bio thing. Rhonda, submit your bio. And I'm like, what do I want to submit? And that feels good today because we're gonna be talking about safety, I think, don't you think Dirk? Around health and safety? Yeah. When you brought that up the other day, I was I was reflecting on it and it's really important, especially. If we've dealt with trauma in our life and also in this environment political environment of 2025 how do we keep ourselves safe and how do we treat ourself well to stay safe and heal with some of the trauma we've experienced? Yeah, I find that it's like a reoccurring thing because if my mind isn't flowing and feeling healthy, if I'm not catching that, maybe my nervous system is doing. These jitters, from past things that used to create this jitteriness in me all the time. It's like I need to catch those things. Like I wanna reach out for tools that's going to help me feel like I'm, sealed up in a way where I feel very comfy and I can go anywhere. I can expose. Through my own podcast or we're just out there vulnerable. When we start looking at the political climate, we're looking at how people are showing up, even meaner because we're just all just having a very difficult time and some people aren't doing their mindset work. So it's really getting pretty crazy out there and I call this hashtag speaker locking arms. I really think that we can. Update the space of humanity for the people like us that we're seeking, that I think we can create a healthier frequency out there. Can you expand more on that, the speaker locking arms? Yeah. The speaker locking arms came about when I actually was on thyroid medicine for 20 years, and so this is about opening your voice, the hashtag speaker locking arms. So I was on thyroid medicine for 20 years. I was like, I'm just not gonna take this pill anymore. And I actually did not tell anybody in my family. And so you think about, the people around me that really care about me, they think that medicine is number one and you, what are you doing? So I did it and what happened was really beautiful things. First, it was very difficult on my body, but I had to learn what my journey was and I was. Overthinking things in my mind, and the medicine would keep my body going for these 20 years, but I wasn't having any repercussions. I didn't know deep inside what was happening to my body until I got off of medicine. And all of a sudden these mind thoughts would come in these, beating myself up emotionally. And I think that your community would understand this, like we get in this. These cycles. So I was held accountable since I didn't have the medicine holding me anymore, which again, it's been so good because I've been on this journey about discovering this stuff. So I learned to pick up my meditation in the morning, go out to Mother Earth, play with my animals so that I can calm my nervous system. So I don't really beat myself up. And if I catch myself saying, you're ugly, you're dumb. Anybody else out there, you got your words I would now start going here. We stop. Listen. What are you doing? Your body's not gonna receive it. You gotta love on your body. You gotta tell your body that you love. You because if you don't, then you're, you, the first thing you eat, it's just gonna stop there. It's, you're not gonna digest it well and you're going to, have all these issues with your stomach stuff. You're gonna bloat, your face is gonna be all round. And like all these, like all a sudden this light bulb, I wasn't saying I need my medicine because my body was reacting like that. Okay. I could finally have that veil off. And say, wow, that these are the things that are happening and now I get to finally play in this journey. It help me get in deeper. By doing that. So that's what the speaker locking arms open your voice, because if you don't, you're not gonna be able to hear yourself too.'cause you're gonna stay quiet in your brain, but you're also going to be partnering with people'cause you're not gonna isolate anymore. And so you get to tell people that you love and you care about them. You're gonna realize that we. Bully ourself. And so we shame, I believe we shame ourself and we blame ourself and we do that to others on an accident because we're doing it to ourself. So I think that the hashtag speaker locking arms open your voice and let's stop the shaming and blaming. That's where that comes from. No, that's beautiful because you, and you and I have done some work together, both in the development of my, my work and also this podcast. Yeah. And finding your voice. And we talk about it during class too. I'm always like, listen to your body, give it what it needs. Listen to your body, give it what it needs. And too often I think we look outside of ourselves for. The answers or we put our trust or we look to others doctors. There's a place for that. Yeah. But I think if we turn inward and get quiet and listen to our inner wisdom. We get some answers, yeah. And you and I think are both health coaches. I think we come from the same philosophy about using food as medicine. And what I'm hearing you say is that you press pause on the medication turned inward and said, okay, what do I need? What does body need? And then you started to and again, the other thing. My takeaway from what you were just saying is we do bully ourselves. We are, we talk to ourselves internally. Worse sometimes than we would talk to a friend or family member. And that, that affects us at a cellular level. Yeah. I what you're saying all a hundred percent. And then, the whole food thing also is like when you, when we start listening to ourself, we have 74. Trillion cells in our body, something like that. And so if we're going down to the cell level we know that something powerful is gonna happen if we pick up the right meal because we need to replenish those. I wonder if we create like a million cells a day, something like that. So we get a chance to be able to heal our liver. And the liver is where we can stand in a lot of anger, right? And so if we keep healing through the food and the mindset. That'll calm our anger. And the way that we can do that is through being able to listen to ourself more, but also the organ itself. The organ itself has energy, and the organ itself is the motherboard of the whole endocrine system. So every part, think of it as a solar system. If the, if that anger is sitting there, it's gonna hurt everything, the heart and the kidneys. And the brain, it's gonna stop you from thinking as smart and creatively as you are, it's gonna stop and slow you down. So if we can do movement, if we can do food, we can do mindset, but also add in there, mindset connects with the spiritual journey too. If we do that, those three pillars is that's what's gonna create a strong cell at the cellular level body. So it's not just outside, exterior and let's plump up our lips. And I'm starting to go there with this whole, someone just told me they want to do a facelift and it fits their personality'cause they're doing injections and everything. I'm like, but what about the beauty of natural stuff? So everybody has their own story, but I believe that we will see ourself, not what we see in the mirror, and then compare it to everybody else. Like what you're saying, turn an inward. We will see like this aura and all of a sudden this pimple or this thing that's happened to our face.'cause we're know fifties, sixties, seventies, things happen, but you feel so beautiful and before you beat yourself up because your exterior is your protector. If I look perfect, then nobody can touch me and nobody will really talk to me. And that's good because I'm protecting myself. So I'm learning about this. I've been off medicine for 10 years and this is the discoveries that I'm learning coupling with our health coaching stuff too, and working with people and listening, yeah. You brought up a good point. I learned with the help of a therapist years ago. I. I was always working out. I was working out building my body and she goes, why do you think you build your body that way? I'm like, you know what? I do it as much for my mindset as I do for the physical. She goes, no, that's your armor. Yeah, because you're, you put your armor on so no one else can hurt you. And I didn't think about it that way. And we have our mental armor. I think sometimes our internal dialogue is our armor. But I really think, the way we speak to ourselves, I have a quote in my journal. Your body's listened to everything your mind is saying. Your body is listened to, everything your mind is saying, and that's what you're saying as well. I feel that's how I've been healing. Yeah. And I know that in the holistic world, it's so bad to say we're healing our body, but maybe we aren't. But if we can step out of our body so our body can just heal on its own, because our bodies always, we actually create natural proteins in our body, in our nervous system. A lot of the science that's going in now, I'm very holistic, so I very seldom talk about science. But there's so much good stuff out there now, but it, we create protein. Yeah. So it's a whole pharmaceutical in our system. We've learned this as health coaches too, Rhonda, given it half a chance, the body will heal itself. Yeah. We need to feed it properly. And that's different for every individual. What works for you may not work for me. One person's food is another person's poison. Yeah. And not every healthy vegetable is healthy for you. I have a client that she was doing something and it wasn't helping her energy. She stayed the same and she was. Isn't this good? And I go, no. The research says it is good, so it's good. I said, but your body's not in a deficit there. So it, even though it's good, it's not good for you, you don't need it right now. There's other things. Your energy's down because it's something else. Let's talk about your nervous system. Let's talk about an event that's gonna be happening in the future that you're starting to get these. Panic attacks these feelings, and it has nothing to do with what you're doing right now. So why don't we transition off of that and let's look at this other stuff. And it became more holistic. And it was about mindset. And when I started with this client about a year and a half ago, I couldn't even talk to her about that stuff because she was like, tell me how to do it. Tell me how to do it. No, it was like she just had to touch and feel it, but I could feel the potential. That she was, looking for those bigger things. And I think that's what we're all attracted here. It's I don't want that quick pill, right? I really want something that I start loving myself more, but I just can't do it overnight. So you want to go through that flow, that journey to be able to discover what that is for you. And it's lonely'cause it's your own, it's your journey. Nobody can really. Tell you that you're gonna fill this or that because you have to unravel all this stuff. A coach is great in this because if you are there holding the space for somebody and helping them with your tools, they get to take that. But they get to also implement it and know it's gonna be different than how it felt when you implemented that tool. That they have a personal journey. They get the tools and the understanding and the support and the hold from you, but they really are on their own personal journey. Yeah. And that's the beautiful thing too, Rhonda, is it's, it is a journey and not ev not everybody like is willing to excuse my language, but look at their own shit, right? And take an honest inventory and look inward. And what I find is that. We need to get quiet. What I'm hearing you say, you've created a morning routine, right? Yeah. And you do things for your nervous system to calm it and to get grounded and to get into your body to be able to listen to it. And again, people I think, are looking so much outside of themselves for the answers they hold within themselves. And one of my favorite. Quotes is by Robert Frost. The best way out is always through. The best way out is always through, and it's about our journey. Yeah. You mentioned about mindset. How does mindset impact our physical health and our healing process? Yeah. If Derek, if I can share my morning this morning? Yeah, absolutely. It was pretty hard. And, but I knew that it was going in a real good place. And you were talking about, that people, some people don't want to go on this journey. You gotta be big, bad, bold ass Yeah. To go on this journey.'cause it's not easy. So if you stay in your walls and you just stay in that, you'll get a little bit of change and you'll be able to learn stuff. But you'll be so caught up in the cerebral, the brain that you won't really be to open up the heart and spaces when it becomes scary, you go, oh, I have to close it off and instead, yeah. When you're on this journey, you're like, oh, I feel scared. And you go, oh, I want to go eat. Like I would say chocolate chip cookies. That was like my dad's favorite thing, just so I can numb it. I just wanna numb it, right? And then I'm like, oh, here, wait, I'm numbing myself. I can't get to that next level, which means I'm gonna have this stuff reoccurring, and so my mind is gonna keep coming at my body. And all these things we were talking about earlier, i'm going through some really big changes and some big growth in my business too. And what happens is my mind feels like I'm at the beginning, like I'm just falling and falling. But I realized that I'm really at the, I've upleveled because I'm thinking bigger things. We were talking the speaker locking arms and and mindset and all that kinda stuff. And I go Here, wait, I'm at the bottom of the next level because I've just elevated. Because I can start hearing and seeing things are gonna be bigger and like lifestyle and what can potentially happen for me and my relationships and business. So this morning my mind was starting to think these things where I started crying and it was about these big changes that are happening, and all of a sudden I started thinking about I'm scared. What I'm feeling. I can put words to it now because I've been expressing it to my significant other, my hubby, we 25 years an anniversary this month right here of being married, and I said I was sharing some stuff with him. I go, but this is such a lonely road because right now I know that. I need to go and I need to go meditate and I need to work through these things, but nobody can be there for me. I gotta do it on my own. And my mind could have taken me in a space where it was like starting to beat myself up and say, oh, you're not gonna change. You're just gonna be the same person everything that you want. And I could go down that road, because right now I'm vulnerable. So if anybody feel vulnerable, you know what that is.'cause we've all been there and. I sat down and I started just being quiet. And I don't know about for you, Dirk or viewers if you want to think about this, but I started noticing that something, an old pattern was coming in my body. So what was happening is I have the, I had these cycles when I was dealing with, I guess we call it trauma, but that's is the general term. But when I started clearing it, I get, I'd have energy and I could fill up my nervous system, and then it would chatter, it'd go da, shake. And then all of a sudden it would clear and it'd do another circle, and then it'd go da and so my body was doing this whole flex back and forth, deep inside, and I was scared for a moment just like I always was when this was happening. But I let it be. And I sat there and I got quiet and I started crying. But I was also asking for support from my support around me. And I think this is a spiritual journey. I started crying and I said, please help me to understand what my next level is here. How can I clear this? Because I'm in so much pain, and as a person, I wanna be respected so much. And there's times in my life when I allowed people to not treat me so well, to treat me like I was dumb. Because that was one of my things, so I'd just show up like all aloof when I am far from being aloof and all of a sudden as my body's chattering and it's going, I'm real quiet. I start all of a sudden turning on my phone and I know that's the worst thing to do, but I'm like, oh, I'm like spirits, please help me. And the first thing that I heard was something that was highly motivational and I turned it off after that. But I find that my scroll on my phone that. If I keep working with my angels somehow that one video I need to hear. If I turn it on and I'm telling myself not to, and I do it, I go, there must be a purpose.'cause I don't like scrolling when I'm going through this journey. So I heard my 10 minutes of motivation from somebody else, a video. And I start crying like a baby. And I go, thank you so much. I turned off my phone and I moved it over. So our mindset can do these things to us where it can beat us down, and then it's going to hurt our body. It's gonna slow us down. We're gonna be sick. And you don't, doesn't mean you have to be on medicine, but I really want us to think about let's keep getting support within ourself. And if you have a spiritual journey, then you'll have guides and you'll be talking to people other spirits. But it's that work that's gonna take you to the next level. We need to get strong as a community. Yeah. We are the leaders right now because we understand how it is to be so deep in the gunk and how to really rise above that. But our pain in our mind is gonna keep pushing us down. So if we keep hashtag speaker locking arms, keep clearing our mind. Then we are going to be able to really support each other and we're gonna keep elevating and feeling free, which I call freedom, safety, and healing all throughout our life and our body. So the mind can take us in crazy places, but our stories are really important to share and really understand that this really is hard work to do and it's okay because it'll make your emotional IQ and how you can explain what you're going through better so you can communicate to people and say, Hey, back off. Stop telling me I'm dumb. People don't say you're dumb though. They just play their thing. You'll, they think I'm like aloof and dumb. Ron, you better show up better. But I'll, but I'll say something to them like, Hey, be cool. Yeah. So we gotta use our voice too. Use your voice, speak your truth. And I love you sharing that story because you know those times to go into the darkness and shine the light and, it makes it not so scary. And I think what I'm hearing you say, and when we go to up level. It is scary, we've been here before and think about where you are today and where you started the journey a while ago. Where you're at today was a scary vision, and now you're there and you're comfortable in that vision, right? And yeah and the ego dies hard. That means that when we start to uplevel, when we start to shift, when we decide to make change, the ego says, who the hell do you think you are? You're and all those old narratives come into play you're dumb, you're aloof or whatever the narratives that we chose to take on throughout our life. Yeah. It's bullshit. And you and I have talked about this. Rhonda and I used to talk it doing your journey. Isn't always easy, but is it worth it? Absolutely. And I remember seeing the saying, trust the process. Trust the process. And I used to say, fuck the process. Fuck the pro. I'm like, fuck the process. And. I wasn't making any, having any growth and it wasn't why I find it. That resistance, both narratives. And it wasn't until I surrendered to the process and got honest with myself that the magic started to happen. But the vulnerability, what you just said there, the vulnerability to actually, to surrender to it. And that's a, it's a big part of it. Yeah. It's identifying like you're saying like, okay, this feels vulnerable, this feels messy, this what's here, what do I need? And to allow yourself, give yourself permission to have that release, that as you mentioned, cry like a baby. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. That's release, you're, it's, that's growth. That is being vulnerable. That's growing. So that's beautiful. I used to think it was very weak I was very much in the cerebral, we're talking ego, ego really sits in the mind and it's like this thing that tries to protect you. It's a wonderful thing of trying to protect you. But the ego is just, the fight the fighting. And the flight we needed that at some time, but now it actually hurts us in our lifestyle. So I really think about that. Okay, this can be painful. And I used to just battle on the ego and I used to work out my body and I don't care. And I used to jump rope and my left knee was going. You shouldn't be jump roping right now. And I go, oh, it's okay because I'm, and I'm still jump roping because I'm gonna get a knee replacement. It's okay, my body can manage it. I'm strong. And then end up on medicine at 29, and I'm like, why am I on medicine? My body can I'm talking to my body this way. My body's Hey, you told me you're. That you have a bad knee, you can just get a replacement. Hey, you said this. So I'm just following the rules and now I'm telling my body, I love you body. When I feel the ache and pain, if it's like pushing me, I can feel it. My muscle feels good, but if my bones are going like ouchie, ouchie, yeah. Knee, shoulder, elbow that you go hey, I'll listen to you this time because no, I don't want knee replacement or shoulder replacement or whatever. Rhonda, what's one. Belief about health and wellness. You had to unlearn that. It for sure. We've been talking about medicine, the, and so we've already worked that one out. What I feel is that I thought that if we eat really healthy, that we're going to be healthy. I really thought that, and what I'm understanding is that, which I call the energy revitalized pillars, which you call the, your M three system, I believe. Yeah. Is that if I don't take care of the other two, which is the movement and the mindset, then food can only take me so far because if I. And beating myself up and not aware.'cause we say 60,000 words to ourself a day, something like that. And 80% is known to be negative. And so if we keep beating ourself up, then the nervous system will keep going. The liver's gonna try and work really hard for you, but it won't be able to keep up. And your gallbladder, maybe you'll lose it because the liver's not functioning fully the way it should. Your digestion isn't gonna work really well even though you're eating all that great food. Your little villi in your stomach, it's not gonna be able to absorb it'cause it's not cohesive with the body. The body's fighting itself. So here comes autoimmune disease or here comes, the big one, the cancer, the fighting and stuff like that. And you'll, you can say what happened to that person? They have this or that, and they're so healthy. And it's this is the beginning of the good discussion of. Hey, there's probably three areas that could help you, and if you do that, which is the three energy revitalized pillars, the M three for you is let's look at all of that and whatever else comes up. And so I believe I, I just thought that if I stay exterior, if I look really good and I do some of these things really well, and then I should be fine. And when I got on the medicine, I'm like, oh, what does that mean? And it took me 20 years to figure it out and 10 years of being free from it, which feels good too. But you went there and you figured it out, right? I did. And I love that I had to actually get on medicine because it's our journey. Whatever our journey is, even like my childhood and some of the things that I'm saying, why my body's all jittery and stuff. Come on. I don't wanna blame anybody. We I'm a parent. I know I'm more to getting blamed myself for things that are going on. But it's not that it, let's don't be blaming anybody. Let's think about our health in a way of we're taking ownership. That was when we were a kid and we were so tiny and we were reacting to some big things that other people were dealing with, and somehow we got mixed into it. So I like to think of it that way. So the health and wellness is wrapped around that big present in the bow that you get to untie. Yeah. Your messaging around stop blaming and shaming is so important and that self. Talk and to start loving ourselves. Start loving every part of ourselves the good what we've we label as bad. Yeah. Is start. Anything, any time, and I had to work at this, Rhonda, anytime I started a negative narrative about myself, yeah, I visualize the stop sign like whoa. Is that true? No, that's not true. Let's reframe it. Let's reframe it to a more positive messaging, because let's be honest, we've talked about this before. Our bodies are amazing. Machines the, to be able to move about this planet as freely as we do without even thinking about it, is amazing. And we blame and shame it because it doesn't look a certain way that society or our mental image that we hold. Looks, yeah. But when we turn inside and oh my God, look how amazing I am and my body is, and how it can heal itself and self-love. Like you're revitalizing pillars. And the M three method is focusing on many different aspects. The mindset, the movement, the meals. How do we feed our lives, on and off the plate. Hey Dirk, I know that you're interviewing me today, but can I ask you a question? Yeah, go for it. You're talking about how special the body is and what it does for us. Can you please share what you shared with me about your back? About how mirror how our bodies is. And you're not the only story out there. It's just over and over. We keep hearing these things, but even my thyroid, I feel like I allowed my thyroid to, to have its journey. And so can you share about your back and your journey with your back? What happened? Sure. When I was 35 I was on a rafting trip and we got caught in a rapid. I was oaring the boat and I was flexing, extending, and I was doing some movements to get out of the rapids. And what I was doing was I was really doing some damage to my back without realizing it until we were out of the rapids. I felt something was off. So fast forward a couple days, I was down in my basement working out. I went bent over to pick up a weight and I felt this. Flash of pain and heat go through my back. I was like, oh, something's not right. And over the next couple of days, I felt this sensation of numbness and tingling go down my leg and it felt like a cramp that I couldn't get rid of it in my calf. Wow. And then what it turned into was I lost the strength and reflexes in my left leg. So my I'd had foot drops, so I'd stumble when I walked. Wow. So as a trainer. I was, okay, I can fix this. And I was working as a tech in a PT clinic and. I went to the physical therapist and I went to the doctor. They said, oh, you need back surgery right away. You have no reflexes. You have no, you have foot drop. That's really bad. You need to have surgery. Now here's the thing. I had worked in that clinic and I had worked with people who had been, had back surgery, and to me, in my opinion. There was a whole other thing that your body had to deal with once it went under the knife for, to cure or take care of that back issue. It didn't always work out. I didn't see a lot of re, I didn't always see the results, so I didn't return the doctor's calls, and I worked with my physical therapist. I made a list of alternative therapies, Rhonda, and surgery was at the bottom that I would do surgery. But I knew enough about my body and I started doing the homework that the physical therapist gave to me and I took action around my healing. So that was a big part of it. I took, I was listening to my body and I'm was say, okay, I'm gonna take action. And I, when he said, we're gonna do the core, we're gonna work on your core. I'm like, bring that shit on. Have you seen my six pack muscle? Yeah. It was BS because superficially I had the six pack but deep down I didn't, wasn't firing my transverse abdominis, which really helps protect my lumbar spine. Now. It took me a while and I'd crawled to the bathroom at night. Wow.'cause I was in such pain and I couldn't hike. I couldn't bike, I couldn't do the things that I liked to do. I was living in Colorado and. It was a little bit of a mind fuck, honestly, because I was like, if I can't do the things I enjoy, I am going, I don't wanna live in Colorado. I don't wanna live here. And then I went there. Had my little pity party and then I recollected myself and said, okay, what's in my power to do? What can I do? And so I, everything the physical therapist gave me. My physical therapist, Joe, was amazing. It was relearning how to. My core and he said, okay, we're gonna work the, we're gonna work your core. And it was basically kegels or Kegels, I was just activating the transverse. And he goes, okay, that's it. I'm like, what? We didn't do anything. He goes, go and work on this for the next week. And Rhonda, I worked, I took that action and I worked and I took some anti-inflammatories and I did. I did some alternative, I did acupuncture and some other things. It took a little while, but I was able to start to restrengthen my back to the point that it gave the disc and everything, it gave it the chance to heal. And then the symptoms started to reverse and I regained the strength. Wow. And the reflexes to my left leg. But it took some action and I used a lot of visualization of, yeah, if I had a disc issue, I visualized that my disc was like an ice cube on a hot sidewalk, and it was melting. It was. Going back into place, it was healing itself. So it was sending energy to the part of my body that it felt like it needed healing. But again, it was, it took a while and it was a bit of a mind fuck. And I allowed myself to go there, but then I got into action and listened to my body. Yeah. And I was able to avoid any surgery and I'm just really more mindful and it made me, honestly, the gift out of it. Rhonda, I. It made me a better trainer because it's a, it taught me how to move my body differently, treat my body differently, love my body differently, and now I share that. With my clients and my class, which you're a part of. Yeah, Dirk, I love that. And I love that visualization.'cause your body's so smart, right? You're doing all these things that, but along the way you're doing some things that people don't really know how to tap into or oh, I don't believe in that stuff. Through my journey with. Being off of medicine, the first thing that happens when, there's so many things that happen when you get off of thyroid medicine, but it's that you just gain weight.'cause it's, it takes care of every cell in your body. The miracle that came out of that is I became a loving, more gentle person because I was so brassy I come from a family of just you looked at me wrong. We're, you just fight and I'm fighting for my rights and like all this kinda stuff. And all sudden I just became very calm and I looked at my body and I go. You right. I'm a health coach. I'm like, almost like laughing what predicament did I get into?'cause I was laughing because I thought it was pretty special. The space I was in. While everybody else was like, get back on medicine, you're looking sick and all stuff. I'm like, oh, I'm looking pretty good. Like when I looked at myself, I could physically see there's things going on, but I learned to love on myself and that helped me love on others. And I do training also and different than what you do. But it's the, the training that I do is about. Healing your body. Yeah. Let's take some time out here for an hour and 15 minutes to do these things. And one of'em is about my body can heal on its own. And so that's what I started doing and I just have so much energy now. Yeah. It just feels so good and it feels more in alignment, but it's in alignment. It's not just because the workouts, just because the food, just because the mindset. But if one drops. Everything drops. There's just no way to manage just one pillar. It's taken inventory consistently. Okay, what does my body need? What does my life need? And what did when we are in our mastermind, there was the mess. When you're healing is your work, and your work is your healing. Yeah, when you're healing is your work, and your work is your healing, right? Even taking a nap is actually, it's business on my calendar. If I'm gonna be taking like a 10 minute nap or even a 30 minute it's like I need creativity. And right now I'm blocking myself because there's an edge on me. And sometimes meditation won't do it. I just need to clear it with that. So I count that as I guide and you need to go take a nap. And when you wake up, don't shame and blame yourself. Yeah, jump right into what you're doing. It's gonna open up your space. So that is actually one of the strategies I work with, which sounds how hard go take a nap. Yeah. When you wake up you call yourself lazy though. See, there's a lot of this. That's, we, that goes back to the. Negative and labeling, instead of saying, oh no, I gave myself rest and recovery. A little downtime to recharge, reset. It's a different, it's a different feeling. Instead of saying, I'm lazy. No, I stopped. I re I'm resetting. And other que question for you is how can someone begin to reconnect with their body's natural wisdom around food and health? Get quiet. Yeah. Good and curious. Quiet and curious, it'll come to you. And the curiosity is gonna come from conversations. Conversations with yourself, really learning to actually listen to yourself. And the curiosity is more just because before I cut it off, it was, if it was something different, whatever, but curious is like you lean in you start becoming part of different communities or conversations and just, it changes your world. Don't you think when we get curious?'cause I'm a big fan of curiosity and phrasing things that way when we get curious about something, the subconscious goes to work to find the answer. Yeah. Or we turn into our inner wisdom for the answer. Yeah. Yeah, I trademarked mindset, transformation, entertainment. And it brings me back to when I was watching Green Acres, Niger Maie and all that stuff.'cause that was just like on the roll, like about six in the morning until before I'd go to school. And I knew that. That always calmed me. I go. I can go to school now, and if I didn't have that, I'd be all, like my body would be all messed up and, but, and I'd still go to school, but I'd be frazzled for the day. So I believe that what you're doing with your podcast is the same thing, is if we can calm our body, entertain ourself, curiosity, then that's gonna take us in a whole nother space that we'll be open to more things. And that's where the safety comes in. Yeah. Safety and giving ourselves permission to play.'cause I believe when we play, we inspire both ourselves and others. Yeah. Learned to play Dirk? What's that? Did you have to, did you have to learn to play? Oh yeah. Yeah. And over the past couple years, and you'll get this, I think with, writing the books and building my business and shifting my branding and my focus is. I was getting too fricking serious and I had to set, I am like, okay, let's bring the fun. Let's start playing some more because life is too short to be so serious. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like we it's almost setting the intention. Just like when we work out Rhonda, setting the intention before our workout, what do we want to get out of the workout? And it's. Also setting the intention to play and have fun and to connect. Yeah. Both with ourselves and others. Yeah. I think that, I was thinking people would say relax. Yeah. And I had somebody actually probably even put some like weed in some of my food to help me relax.'cause I've never smoked weed actually. I, I've just never done any drugs in my life. Except hypothyroid medicine. But I, because people were saying you're just too like. And I was like, what does that mean? How do I change that? How do I change that? Yeah, great awareness. I think playing can really help us to kinda reset and get back in touch with that inner child and that playful side of us. Yeah. Rhonda, it's so much fun talking with you all the time. I have one other question for you before we wrap up. If you could put a me one message on a billboard about health, mindset or food, what would it say? If you could put a message on a billboard? I believe that. Manage your energy because energy is everything. Something that gives you energy is going to help you grow. And growing equals health, growing at the fullest. When you said that the word joy popped into my head. Yeah. Energy gives you joy or do what brings you joy. Yeah. And that will help give you energy that joy is a top level of happiness. So Yeah. On the happiness, on the scale. Yeah. Emotional scale, right? Yeah. That's amazing, Ron. What, is there anything else you want our listeners to know? Yeah. I wanted to love on you and tell you that you're doing an incredible job with your podcast and just the space you hold is wonderful. And I know that you're just buckled in with just a few people you got to interview with, but this is naturally your thing. Oh, you're sweet. I can't wait to just discover, what you're gonna be doing along the way'cause this is a great interview. I appreciate you. And you've been, I appreciate those kind words and you have been such a vital part of my growth and my gaining the courage to step out and do my own upleveling. So you've been a big part of this both in the Mastermind and as my mentor and coach, so thank you so much. I think we're great partners. I think we're gonna, we've been talking dollar amounts just like in business and what you're role in because you're, you are launching some really cool things and I feel if we just keep tag teaming like this, that we get to really be this hashtag speaker locking arms. Like we're just out there speaking and supporting and building community and feeling raw and bold and badass ourselves, which I think that was something hard to step into every day. But I think there's just some synergy that when you're with that community that way. It powers you up. Yeah. And it's really about connecting and finding your tribe and getting empowered to live bold and giving yourself permission to do that, right? Giving yourself permission to uplevel your life and what do you want, not what society says and the family says, or. Whomever, get quiet and say, what do I want? Because the next five years is gonna come and go, whether you like it or not. Where do you want to end up on the other side? And I love our connections, I love our collaborations. How can other others, our listeners and others get in touch with you, reach you? I definitely am, where everybody's at. There's a lot of stuff you can find with me on social media. And then I have a tree that gives ideas of how to connect with me, some free stuff, some services, how to watch my show, fresh Talks, global Vision how to be on my show. Things like that. So that would be Rhonda libi.com/tree and Libi.'Cause you're here and Dirk and I talk at the beginning. Libi looks like Li Big, but it is a German name. So I, we do pronounce it Libi, but it's LIEB ig. And Rhonda with a h please don't forget that. H So it's rhonda le.com/tree. I know the importance of names, especially with growing up with the name of Dirk, yeah. I got all kind of variations of that. Rhonda, thank you so much for being a part of the community and part of my life. You really are an inspiration and a light in this world that we need more of. Yeah. So thank you listeners for this, listen to this episode. Look more, look for more episodes of the Holistic Homo wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you so much. Till next time. I.